Mega Man 9 out now on Wiiware!!

[flameboy]

Originally Posted by Tellyn

Tell me how a PS3 or 360 release would actually represent a bold leap in graphics then.

I never said it would provide a bold leap in graphics, just present the game in a cleaner crisper way that people have become accustomed to...

[Tellyn]

The Wii isn't made of paperclips, I think it can handle 8-bit graphics pretty well. All you're gonna get is brighter coloured pixels.

Although this is all well and good, this game isn't going to look good in widescreen nevermind 480p.

I don't quite understand why anyone would want this over a Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix-esk graphical style.

For example:
Street Fighter II' Hyper Fighting:


HD Remix:


Admittedly, it takes an extremely long time to hand draw this stuff.

[Hellfire]

Look, this game is catered exclusively to Megaman nuts, most of them prefer Megaman 2 over any of the other Megamans (megamen?), it's supposed to be very literally old school, if there's anything that's hardcore it's this. So, the game won't sell bajillions and it's supposed to be fanservice, why not make it look like a NES game, specially considering that it's supposed to play like one? Would hand drawn HD graphics go well with classic Megaman gameplay? Don't think so. If you're that hung up on graphics, well, don't buy it. Not to mention, there are shitloads of 2D Megaman with SNES/PSX sprites, they're not HD, so what, let fans have this game. Maybe, we'll get a more modern-age one too.

Originally Posted by flameboy

I dunno I have heard/read about many people who are disappointed that the rumours of it hitting PSN/Live we debunked.

Yes leaps can be made in other ways, I will accept that. But will this game do it? I'm not so sure.

Of course you did, 360 and PS3 fans that laugh at Wii owners when they don't get games for Wii, yet can't stand when Wii gets exclusives for example. Of course that's not all of them, it's not odd to see people wanting HD games.

And the game is a leap. Tell me, have you seen a huge company take a huge franchise, direct it to the most dedicated fans and make it for a 20+ year old console (not literally, but you get it)? It's a leap in philosophy and nothing else.

Originally Posted by Hellfire

Would hand drawn HD graphics go well with classic Megaman gameplay? Don't think so. If you're that hung up on graphics, well, don't buy it. Not to mention, there are shitloads of 2D Megaman with SNES/PSX sprites, they're not HD, so what, let fans have this game. Maybe, we'll get a more modern-age one too.

Graphical style hardly influences gameplay when it comes to this kind of genre. Take an example from a fanmade 'screenshot' of a HD Remake of Sonic 1.



How can you say that doesn't look fantastic? Also, i'm not 'hung up' on graphics, some of my favourite games are quite old you're just presuming that the way i feel about this being in 8bit says everything about my taste in gaming as a whole.

[Pit-Jr]

Im bummed that PS3 isnt getting this but its MegaMan 9, not MegaMan X HD(fingers crossed for that one!)

Perfect DLC for the Wii, so long as they also keep the price in the NES range too.

[Dante]

Would this part of Inafune interview help understand the reason?

GamesRadar: This makes perfect sense as a WiiWare title, but did you ever consider creating Mega Man 9 with HD graphical output?

Inafune: This project was born out of a desire to create a new Mega Man series in an 8-bit style. A decade has passed since the last Mega Man, and on this occasion, we specifically chose to go back to our roots. The idea behind it is that we wanted to reintroduce “simple and fun” characteristics of Mega Man to the users.

XBLA and PSN enable HD output, but that alone does not make all the HD games interesting. HD technology does not make a game interesting. The quality of gameplay makes games interesting. Users don’t pick up a game to evaluate graphics. They pick up games to enjoy gameplay. If a game can offer fun, the users can enjoy the gameplay without any reference to the graphics. Meanwhile, I’m hoping that the 8-bit system will provide a different type of fun by bringing fresh air with retro graphics.

[Hellfire]

Originally Posted by Jordan

Graphical style hardly influences gameplay when it comes to this kind of genre. Take an example from a fanmade 'screenshot' of a HD Remake of Sonic 1.



How can you say that doesn't look fantastic? Also, i'm not 'hung up' on graphics, some of my favourite games are quite old you're just presuming that the way i feel about this being in 8bit says everything about my taste in gaming as a whole.

This kind of genre? Sonic and MM might be platformers, but they're nothing alike.
It looks somewhat fantastic, but tbh I think that doesn't have a lot of charm. Which isn't the case of SFIIHDR of course.
It has nothing to do with how you feel on gaming, I couldn't care less, this game is supposed to be like the NES ones, it's for the NES fans, it's a great idea to make the game look like a NES one. I understand those who would wish for better graphics, but that doesn't mean I can't love, prefer actually, the way they're doing it.
Who knows what they do next? There are Megaman games everywhere, most likely, a Megaman spinoff (X series for example) will make its way to HD consoles or Wii with better graphics to match more modern gameplay.

[flameboy]

Originally Posted by Jordan

Although this is all well and good, this game isn't going to look good in widescreen nevermind 480p.

I don't quite understand why anyone would want this over a Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix-esk graphical style.

For example:
Street Fighter II' Hyper Fighting:


HD Remix:


Admittedly, it takes an extremely long time to hand draw this stuff.

Originally Posted by Jordan

Graphical style hardly influences gameplay when it comes to this kind of genre. Take an example from a fanmade 'screenshot' of a HD Remake of Sonic 1.



How can you say that doesn't look fantastic? Also, i'm not 'hung up' on graphics, some of my favourite games are quite old you're just presuming that the way i feel about this being in 8bit says everything about my taste in gaming as a whole.

See I think you are on more on my wavelength...

Surely people would prefer the HD looking option to the SD version if they could pick between the two.

I will reserve proper judgement on the gameplay until we see loads of hands ons etc.... as it could offer great innovation for the 2D genre.

[Hellfire]

Originally Posted by flameboy

See I think you are on more on my wavelength...

Surely people would prefer the HD looking option to the SD version if they could pick between the two.

Surely, everyone needs to have the same opinion as you.

Originally Posted by Hellfire

Surely, everyone needs to have the same opinion as you.

Hellfire, no offence but coming from you thats pretty rich having seeing some of your posts.

[Hellfire]

Originally Posted by Jordan

Hellfire, no offence but coming from you thats pretty rich having seeing some of your posts.

Yes it is Jordan, yes it is. Don't worry, it takes a lot for me to be offended by a screen name on the internet.

[Dante]

People really dont understand at all.

[Jonnas]

Originally Posted by Jordan

Graphical style hardly influences gameplay when it comes to this kind of genre. Take an example from a fanmade 'screenshot' of a HD Remake of Sonic 1.

...It's Sonic 2. I'd just thought I should point that out.

Originally Posted by flameboy

I dunno I have heard/read about many people who are disappointed that the rumours of it hitting PSN/Live we debunked.

They were disappointed, because they don't own the console the game's for. Duh.

Originally Posted by flameboy

I never said it would provide a bold leap in graphics, just present the game in a cleaner crisper way that people have become accustomed to...

...Except HD display doesn't turn this



into this




It just makes the jagged edges in MM's helmet clearer.

Originally Posted by flameboy

Surely people would prefer the HD looking option to the SD version if they could pick between the two.

I choose the 8-bit version. The SNES/PSX/GBA Megaman feels clunky, and not very practical. For improved graphics, there's Megaman X/Zero/ZX, that work wonderfully with complex sprites.

Look, we get your point. You wanted improved graphics. But that's impossible, now. Even if the game came out for the PS3/X360, there would be no point in making it HD. It would look the same as it does on the Wii.

[flameboy]

Originally Posted by Hellfire

Surely, everyone needs to have the same opinion as you.

As Jordan puts it below. Your just as bad...

Originally Posted by Jordan

Hellfire, no offence but coming from you thats pretty rich having seeing some of your posts.

Originally Posted by Hellfire

Yes it is Jordan, yes it is. Don't worry, it takes a lot for me to be offended by a screen name on the internet.

I don't mean to offend..far from it just putting my point of view into the melting pot...

[Hellfire]

Originally Posted by flameboy

As Jordan puts it below. Your just as bad...





I don't mean to offend..far from it just putting my point of view into the melting pot...

Not talking about you, Jordan said "No offense." And I'm saying I'm not offended.
Why? Because while in my posts I always state my opinion, get into discussions, meaning lots of posts, which inevitably lead to people saying "lulz fanboy", I always state it as that, my opinion, I don't say that surely, other people view things the same way as me. In fact in this same thread I said

I understand those who would wish for better graphics, but that doesn't mean I can't love, prefer actually, the way they're doing it.

Of course that's not all of them, it's not odd to see people wanting HD games.

Yet, Jordan says it's pretty rich considering my other posts. And considering my other posts, I find Jordan considering it pretty rich, pretty rich. Hence, I'm not insulted. That, and it's videogames and internet.

[flameboy]

Originally Posted by Hellfire

Not talking about you, Jordan said "No offense." And I'm saying I'm not offended.
Why? Because while in my posts I always state my opinion, get into discussions, meaning lots of posts, which inevitably lead to people saying "lulz fanboy", I always state it as that, my opinion, I don't say that surely, other people view things the same way as me. In fact in this same thread I said


Yet, Jordan says it's pretty rich considering my other posts. And considering my other posts, I find Jordan considering it pretty rich, pretty rich. Hence, I'm not insulted. That, and it's videogames and internet.

Sorry I should have perhaps written I didn't intend to offend either...just to make it clear I wasn't trolling for the sake of it.

In reference to the "lulz fanboy" I can see that but the end of the day the vast majority of us are here because of our love for Nintendo. It doesn't mean we have to always agree though and with many people owning more than one console it means people have different views.

[Tellyn]

I still don't see what you're getting at though. You're gutted because an 8-bit game (I'm going to keep repeating that) isn't coming to PS3, despite the fact that you own a Wii which is perfectly adequate to run the game.

[Hellfire]

Of course, I never thought you were trolling and of course people don't have the same viewpoints, if so, what would be the point of the forums?

[Hellfire]

http://www.gamespite.net/toastywiki/...ngIsRightAgain
Cool article

[Dante]

first footage of Mega Man 9.

[Hero-of-Time]

Thanks for that Dante.
*HoT has a massive nostalgia overload*

Also, here is a great article about how MM9 is a step in the right direction and how other developers should take note.

http://www.gamespite.net/toastywiki/...ngIsRightAgain

[Hellfire]

Originally Posted by Hellfire

http://www.gamespite.net/toastywiki/...ngIsRightAgain
Cool article

Originally Posted by Hero-of-Time

http://www.gamespite.net/toastywiki/...ngIsRightAgain

:P
Looking great, but they should've put okkusenman in the trailer!

[flameboy]

Originally Posted by Tellyn

I still don't see what you're getting at though. You're gutted because an 8-bit game (I'm going to keep repeating that) isn't coming to PS3, despite the fact that you own a Wii which is perfectly adequate to run the game.

I think my major problem stems from first it isn't a super clean HD hand drawn game I was hoping for, then secondly its not even a sequel to 7 and 8, but acutally to 6, seem as that was the last NES one, I guess all those things accumalate and make me want a HD version!

[Hero-of-Time]

Originally Posted by Hellfire

:P
Looking great, but they should've put okkusenman in the trailer!

lol my bad, Hellfire. Hopefully more people will take notice of the article now that its been posted numerous times