News: Wii 'Isn't Even Online' - Microsoft

Posted by Aaron Clegg - Nov 24th 2008 19:57

One Microsoft employee gives his opinion on the state of Nintendo's online structure.

Speaking with Edge, Vice-President of the Interactive Entertainment Business for Microsoft EMEA Chris Lewis spoke out about the leading console's online structure, or rather, faling to acknowledge it even has one. He said this of Wii:

"Nintendo occupies a different space to us in that regard as well, in that [the Wii] isn’t an online connected platform, it isn’t high definition, it doesn’t offer the scalability we offer in the SKU lineup and the storage ability. … I certainly think we do have an appetite for getting into those broad family genres, and that part of the strategy will continue to be so, but I think we clearly want to appeal to all tastes. Our aspiration is to win overall, and to do that we need to continue to bring content to all the different genres in the market, with Xbox Live at the heart of that."

Interestingly enough, it's the family genres where Microsoft have infamously had little success, with widely-panned efforts such as Scene It? and You're in the Movies almost completely failing to catch on.

Nonetheless, does Lewis have a valid argument when criticising Wii's online structure, lack of HD and storage ability? Or is he simply bitter about having a business card wider than the average human face? Let us know what you think.


Source: Edge Online



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DarkPGR3 Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 14:04 || Total Comments: 94
They should just shut up and get the job done, how come MOST countries with official Xbox and Microsoft support, don't have official Xbox LIVE support???... they are selling most of us an incomplete machine? and with that statement, a heartless machine and a heartless experience....
Dark dragonic Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 14:19 || Total Comments: 90
win and lose. he is right about online, but their family based games need work
Daviddakota Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 14:22 || Total Comments: 52
Lets face it, the vast majority of core Wii gamers would kill for Nintendo to have a more robust online infrastructure in the mould of XBL.
Nintendo are two or more generations behind in this regard- the original Xbox Live options were leagues ahead of what Nintendo currently offers.
Munnawar Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 14:35 || Total Comments: 9
If they just released a headset...
I would be incredibly sattisfied
Not to mention disposal of friend codes
A decent server to eliminate lag
FIXING Smash Bros online...<<< (major issue)
Thats about all i can think off of the top of my head.
The graphics arent incredibly bad... i mean they are peak of last gen which really niggles at me, so far the only games which look remotely good are games that actually WERE released last gen: Resi 4; Zelda and other games that fail to come to me in five seconds.
Mario Galaxy looked nice too =]
Dont even get me started on the "amazing" COD 5 and teh conduit
I really think the Wii is capable of much better graphics
some one else besides nintendo do something...
scratch that
SOMEONE do something cos right now as gamers
we are being ignored by everyone on the wii.
Not to say the wii is a bad console
Good games come rarely but when they do theyre awesome
Smash bros
SM Galaxy
erm...
thats it really
Darkflame Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 14:36 || Total Comments: 961
Isnt it?

Because thats funny, that the Wii has a WEBBROWSER that we can use.

Does the Xbox360?

Come on microsoft,speak up....
Darkflame Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 14:37 || Total Comments: 961
"Good games come rarely but when they do theyre awesome
Smash bros
SM Galaxy
erm...
thats it really"


METROID CORRUPTION.

Fantastic controlls. Fantastic visuals.

Stop ignoreing it people :(
Darkflame Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 14:39 || Total Comments: 961
(If anyone is wondering why Microsoft dosnt have a webbrowser, incidently, is that their own one is too bloated to work on the 360, yet they are too proud to use someone elses ;) )
Allenator Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 14:51 || Total Comments: 49
I'm not really into all this HD grapics and wi-fi stuff I just love a good game and smash bros, Galaxy, Mario Kart, MP corruption, Okami, FE, GH:WT and soon ToS 2 more than satisfy me. However brawls wifi could definetly be much better.
Cipher Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 15:03 || Total Comments: 294
"I'm not really into all this HD grapics and wi-fi stuff I just love a good game and smash bros, Galaxy, Mario Kart, MP corruption, Okami, FE, GH:WT and soon ToS 2 more than satisfy me."

Hear, hear!
Sofree Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 15:12 || Total Comments: 103
The Wii is online enough for me :)
LordVader Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 15:13 || Total Comments: 53
"High Definition" has nothing to do with online gaming (I find it amazing how they have been able to convince people how that displaying 720p content on a 1920x1080 TV is so much better than 480p content, but I'm no marketing department)
Kasugi99 Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 15:20 || Total Comments: 1
They talk about the Wii as if the 'family friendly" aspect is all it has going for it. What about the innovative control device? Granted, I don't believe it has yet been fully exploited but for me that is what the Wii is all about.
SanderEvers Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 16:07 || Total Comments: 119
Just ignore this. The Wii is online connected. Wii got WiiConnect24 which is always-on (or not if you chose to disable it), WiFi Connection (which is improving in newer games), Virtual Console and WiiWare. They always leave those two out. However, the best Wii games this season (not including Nintendo retail titles, since they are truly awesome) are WiiWare titles.

Microsoft has one job: sell the XBOX 360. There is only one console selling beter than the X360: the Wii. So the (think) they have to attack Nintendo on it and steal the Wii's features (Avatars are Miis) or they wouldn't sell a single console.
Munnawar Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 16:12 || Total Comments: 9
O yeah i forgot about Metroid Prime earlier
Good game
Good visuals
not Fantastic though
and i really cant fathom how people think...
no insist!
That mario kart Wii is any good
The online isnt laggy
but the gameplay is bad
the graphics atrocious
(love the classic maps)
but obviously those who love MK wii
Didnt seem to have played the former games
otehrwise they would notice the suckage in comparison
Allenator Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 16:48 || Total Comments: 49
I admit MK wii is nothing compared to some of the previous MK's however i still think it's a good game
V3N0M1981 Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 16:49 || Total Comments: 21
The only Wii game I was looking forward to in the release schedules was Animal crossing, and I cancelled my pre-order today due to financial issues (and the fact it will be essentially the same game as all the other Animal Crossings).

I dont care about if a console is online or offline, I just with some games I can look forward to playing are on the horizon
Munnawar Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 16:53 || Total Comments: 9
Yeah sorry for the rant on mario kart
but nintendo could have made it alot better
it was that damn wii wheel they focused advertising on that
so they didnt do much on the game
i just use my gamecube pad
but come onnnnnnnn pikmin 3!
IceLightning Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 17:49 || Total Comments: 101
Wow, the defence here is like an army of raging fanboys. Nintendo's online is pretty terrible now matter how you look at it, at least in terms of actually supporting it and making games like Smash Bros not lag. However when they get it right like Mario Kart it's actually fun, I like the simplicity of it over Xbox Live sometimes as it's just nice to have an easy but fun time on the console, only more games need to realise this.
Except friendcodes always have been and always will be a burden.

But Microsoft have built their console around the online, and it's obviously going to be great because that's what they do best. The only problem is since so many games are online a lot of them have no one playing them, since Nintendo has so few online games there's always people online playing them.
Allred Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 18:18 || Total Comments: 13
To be fair, the Wii's online gaming infrastructure isn't up to much. Nintendo need to bring in a integrated online system like Live or the Playstation Network.
Pod Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 18:58 || Total Comments: 1037
I'd argue it's the 360 that isn't online enabled. Letting you play stupid morons from around the world, but not even browse? What's that about. I can play morons at home.
Drift Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 19:26 || Total Comments: 261
And I would argue I can browse the internet at home... was that point you made a joke?

Furthermore it made no sense considering... well you can't play that many 'morons' at home, consoles accept 4 ports, online can have as many players as you want. I don't even know what the "at home" point was considering to play online or off, or browse the net you generally have to be home anyway.

Everyone should stop blindly supporting Nintendo, the 360 guy has a point, Nintendo's online system does suck, only game I know of to do it right was Mario Kart Wii. I don't agree with everything he says, but he is right about the online situation, maybe not to the degree of not having one, but yeah.
Critter171 Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 19:58 || Total Comments: 79
IceLightning - You cannot stop games for lagging i expreince plenty of 360 games lagging. You first therory is out the window.

UIceLighting... HD has nothing to do with online gaming like someoneelse metion.

to say wii is not online is a like saying it dosent play games.
Critter171 Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 20:00 || Total Comments: 79
Drift- I can play games on a computer can you stop blindy support a company that says something thats not even true?

Before you even call me a fanboy i like 360 and have it online just like the wii.

Drift- they never said there was online on the wii learn to read.
Nintendude Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 22:36 || Total Comments: 73
He really should get his facts right before saying there is no online. It's really simple and dated online structure but it still counts. It works just fine and as long as there is digital content for people to buy I think it's almost all Nintendo needs currently.

We've seen that Nintendo can get their online games to work quite well (or game, heh) so it's not really their faul if 3rd parties don't want to get their Wii games online. Nintendo could help them a bit. Even some kind of online scoreboard structure might help, not necessarily a channel but a working ingame solution for 3rd parties to implemend.

This is quite irrelevant to the story but since you were talking about MK... I liked MKDD and I like MK Wii, haven't really played the others. I especially like the way how they handled the boosts this time. Not being able to snake and boost the whole race makes the game much more even between players of different skill levels, this is really important feature of an online game in my opinion.
Iun Says:
November 24th, 2008 at 23:26 || Total Comments: 152
News: "Xbox Isn't Even Selling" Says Everyone.

Oops, sorry, that was thoughtless triumphalism on my part there. Xbox Live is a great system, and it's a big feature of the console.

As a Wii owner, I'm not too fussed about online. What we have works, it's not great, but it's what we've got.
Solitanze Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 00:56 || Total Comments: 1655
Focus on destroying the Playstation brand this generation Microsoft so Nintendo can continue their journey to reclaim the gaming records eclipsed by the Playstation brand during the failure years...

Progress has most certainly been made though. FF VII (one of the most overrated games of all time) is not far off from being dropped out of the top 20 by Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii, so I ask all that have not purchased these games or have sold their copies, to in fact purchase them so that FF VII can be outside the top 20 best selling games of all time (not bundled) where it belongs...
Sumo73 Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 02:36 || Total Comments: 317
This could have been said about the Gamecube and to some degree about the Wii during the first 6 months of its life but not now. It's a throw away comment.

I'm surprised by this comment from someone from Microsoft. If they had said "The Wii has weaker online options than Xbox Live" then I would have listened to this guy a bit more.

Microsoft hasn;t done well in two key places - Japan and the wider audience but that doesn't mean it's a failure at all. Microsoft are good at what they do and the 360 is an amazing machine but I guess that Chris Lewis hasn't played Mario Kart or the other online games on the Wii before saying what he did.
Llewdebkram Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 03:27 || Total Comments: 237
It's online out of the box unlike the Xbox360 which means an additional £60 spend for a wireless device (unless you go wired) + £25-£40 per year for Xbox live.

Although I will admit Xbox360 has the superior online interface and service.
Joe550 Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 03:56 || Total Comments: 1
'Because thats funny, that the Wii has a WEBBROWSER that we can use.

Does the Xbox360?

Come on microsoft,speak up....'

If i wanted to use a web browser, i'd go on my computer thank you very much. I play my game consoles to play games :)
Darkflame Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 04:24 || Total Comments: 961
Then why the fuss over chat-features and avatars and such? They arnt games either.

The ONLY real thing the Xbox does better then the Wii online, is they use one profile for all games.

God-knows why the Wii's system code isnt used universaly...that is stupid.

But the fact that the Wii has a flaw in its system dosnt change the fact its actualy a very cheap, flexible and fast online device.
For games that use it right, its just fine.


Also, for a lot of people the Webbrowser, and to a less extent the weather and news, are actualy usefull features. For checking/sending emails the wii is just fine (especialy if you get a wireless keyboard). Unless you leave your pc on anyway, you can check your email on the Wii faster then it takes your PC to boot up.

The DS-demo channel is also great imho. (I wouldnt have discovered the brillence of Soul-Bubbles without it).

The Wii is not online online, but has great online features.
It merely has *different* flaws to the 360.
SanderEvers Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 04:54 || Total Comments: 119
I've played, and owned, every Mario Kart starting from the GBA version. (GBA, Cube, DS and Wii) I still think the Wii version is the best one. (I do, however, play it with the NGC controller ;))
Jon1989 Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 06:22 || Total Comments: 46
Microsoft are complete asses, if like most people you want your console to have wireless connectivity then if you didnt buy the most expensive xbox 360 (an i dont even know if that has it) then you have got to shell out £50 just to buy a wireless hub for the console, then if you want to really experience xbox live, you have to shell out another £40 a year to enjoy that. I havent brought wireless for it yet becoz im so reluctant to spend that money, when my PS3 and Wii both have wireless internet built in with a free service! My bro unexpectidly got a free PS3 on his new phone contract, an i thought absolutely nuttin of the thing until i experienced it, an right now id say it offers alot more, and really feels next gen.

Another dig at microsoft is there stupid console scratched my GTA IV yet becoz they didnt publish the game they refused to take responsibility, how the hell does that make sense? I was goin to have to pay £25 to rockstar to replace the game so in the end i just brought it 2nd hand. i stand by why i brought an xbox 360, but with all these issues im gutted and would almost say get a PS3 instead... but who knows..
Kagato Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 07:23 || Total Comments: 655
It was quite a silly statement from an ill informed rep who probably hasnt even put any time into using a wii. I agree with the mojority of comments that the Wii would have been better off with a single profile approach for all games, sort of like xbox live. That said, HD gaming is nice and all but when you look at games like Okami and Mario Galaxy on the Wii its obvious that games can look beautifull on non HD hardware.

The Xbox has a slew of great games but nothing compared to the first party stuff coming directly from Nintendo and that is why core gamers will always have to have two consoles.

As for online, Nintendo finally seems to be getting the hang of enabling it in their games, i wouldnt be suprised to see the next nintendo console working with an online hub design similar to Home or Live but with that very distinct Nintendo feel to it.
Gaglet Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 07:51 || Total Comments: 39
Blab blah blah...Xbox doesn't have those things either because it breaks all the time.

It's like saying, 'Look at my dog, he can walk, talk, play chess, fly spaceships...but he can't actually do any of it beacuse he is dead.'
ConflictCloud Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 10:04 || Total Comments: 174
Did you ever play FFVII Sol? Your constant bashing of other systems and games would make more sense if you actually seemed to LIKE Nintendo. But all the evidence suggests you don't. ?
EmeraldEmblem Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 11:08 || Total Comments: 28
The games are the only thing that should matter, the console with more games you want should be the ultimate purchase in the end, I'm currently Wii60 user until the PS3 gets another price drop.
Wengle Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 11:19 || Total Comments: 122
The Wii isn't a console. Its a novelty, with some console-like, some PC-like, and some other features.
Its like of any HD support and its lack of any games that people actually want to play beyond the first two weeks of purchase make it awful.
I've had the Wii since launch. I've had an xbox 360 since March this year.
I have since only gone on my wii for the occasional brawl, and I probably played my Wii for less than 40 hours in the whole of 2007. I'm on my 360 all the time. On Xbox Live. The wii hasn't been used since July. Because no-one truly likes playing the games it offers because of how their played.
And about 4 of my friends who like me, used to be Nintendo Fanboys have gone to either the 360 or PS3.
And I don't see where this whole Xbox breaks all the time arguement comes from? I've dropped mine down stairs, it landed on hard floor. It had one scratch.
Nintendo's got it sales. But its lost its fans. Microsoft's getting both of them.
D_prOdigy Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 11:22 || Total Comments: 1596
Wengle is the absolute master of satire. Never since the works of Chris Morris have I seen such genius.
Allenator Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 12:12 || Total Comments: 49
Wengle why do you always just come onto this site to slag of nintendo and big up the 360 and the only reason you don't use your wii is that you bought a console which you hate the games for. And also having seen your 360 games 80% of them are FPS games anyway, How about you try a bit of veriety in your games. Rant Done!
Dark dragonic Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 14:53 || Total Comments: 90
my god. i know this is a nintendo website and all, but are so many of you such fanboys that you will rage over a little comment?
jaysus. he didn't mean it literally. he meant that compared to 360/ps3, it may as well be the gamecube again. think about it. xbox live has had voice chat from teh word go, nintendo are ONLY JUST releasing a terrible version of it. xbl doesnt have the pathetic friend codes like nintendo. xbl has MUCH LESS lag than wii online.

nintendo need to sort their act out. i'm just hoping that the gamecube remakes coming out next year have decent online options as well as wii controls. if they put proper multiplayer into echoes (it was in there originally...just wasn't particularly good) it could potentially be a rival to many xbl shooters (although it would take a lot to bring it up to the strengths of cod4 and halo3)
D_prOdigy Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 14:58 || Total Comments: 1596
The Play on Wii games will not be online, I can tell you that. Bit of a weird thing to wish for though, actually.
Dark dragonic Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 15:09 || Total Comments: 90
why? if nintendo can get online sorted out then they will get more of the core back!
and why is a metroid prime multiplayer death match or online mario tennis a wierd thing to wish for?
Drift Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 19:14 || Total Comments: 261
"Drift- I can play games on a computer can you stop blindy support a company that says something thats not even true?

Before you even call me a fanboy i like 360 and have it online just like the wii.

Drift- they never said there was online on the wii learn to read."

I don't know what any of that has to do with what I wrote... And um, I don't know who your refering to in the "they never said there was online on the wii" but if your refering to the article... I know, and I mentioned that in my post, the irony is... your the one who didn't read...
Critter171 Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 19:46 || Total Comments: 79
Drift- i am so tired of people like you acting like you stalking me. :| I read it and micrsofot said that there was no online gaming.

and you agree when in fact there is
Critter171 Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 19:50 || Total Comments: 79
online gaming. :\ so dont tell me read your own replay.

Wengle- Last time i check is that that you put games in the wii. hence a gaming machine.

HD dosent make the system i dont even have hd for my tv. It has varity of games. You just dont like it.

so why are you on a nintendo site if you dont like the wii? acutally do you even have a wii in the first place?
Spacecowgoesmoo Says:
November 25th, 2008 at 21:45 || Total Comments: 20
LOL @ the reason for no Xbox browser, I had never thought of that!
Yojimbo Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 02:24 || Total Comments: 14
Makes you wonder just how many the Wii would be outselling the XBox by if it was any good then doesn't it?
Drift Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 04:44 || Total Comments: 261
See Critter, thats what I mean about fanboys, you think you can't enjoy a console without loving everything about it.

"so why are you on a nintendo site if you dont like the wii?"

you assumed that because I didn't like the online system. I suppose you love the small storage capcity in the Wii then, makes it exciting to have to meticulously choose which games to download? In the case you have talked yourself into liking it, your a blind fanboy, and in the case you dislike it, by your own definition you dislike Nintendo and shouldn't be here.

As for me saying Nintendo has no online: "but he is right about the online situation, maybe not to the degree of not having one, but yeah."

As you can see, I did not agree that the Wii has no online system, as I already told you, read my reply properly, which you claimed you did.

Furthermore, I seriously doubt this Microsoft dude has no idea the Wii is online, he's obviously overexegerating to make a point, don't take everything literally and learn to read the meaning behind the words.
Wengle Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 05:10 || Total Comments: 122
@ The replies to my comment.
I was a nintendo fan for several years. As were quite a few of my friends.
And the Wii was a huge waste of money.
I come here because I still enjoy playing DS games, and so I come here news like that.
And I have a viewpoint. I'll put it across.

@ Critter171; I say in my initial comment do I do have a Wii, but it just sits there collecting dust, and I'd sell it, but I still have a fraction of hope that Nintendo will make it a device I wish to use.
But as I've said. Wii, had since launch. 360, had since March. Play 360 all the time because of the excellent online services and the fact all my friends also saw the light and went for the 360. Wii, I played once during the summer for one quick Brawl.
The console I'm using more and more people enjoy playing more I'm sure is the better one. If you can't work out that I'm reffering to the 360, show's your just an ignorant nintendo fan who usually uses an arguement like "yeah, the xbox and ps3 have better graphics, but its all about gameplay". True, gameplay is key. So why do no Wii games have a gameplay style that makes me want to play it?
Pod Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 06:44 || Total Comments: 1037
@ Wengle
We're getting very deep into taste-territory.
I don't own a 360 because I think its just a big too big, noisy and powerhungry, and I have no particular interest in any of its games, beside a few on XBLA.

I am not a fan of the controller, and I am not a fan of the whole "online-gamer-community" thing, even if I take a huge interest in games, and debate them online.

Granted, I am displeased with a lot of the business Nintendo are doing these days, what with the ridiculess prices on additional Wii controllers here in Europe, the speculative pricing on Wii-Shop items, and the absence of a Player's Choice range.

Still, there are more games that I have interest in for the system than I have money for buying and time for playing, so I can hardly complain.
Solitanze Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 06:54 || Total Comments: 1655
Sony also took a stab at Nintendo Wii recently with a comment suggesting that Eyetoy is better than Wii...
Tir Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 08:37 || Total Comments: 94
well didnt this become needlessly heated?
People enjoy the games you are playing, its why they are designed and made. instead of just flaming each other, why not just respect the choice of game some else has. i play brawl, my sister plays catz. I dont preach to her about why its rubbish, purely because she enjoys the game. and im not saying dont post replies, im asking why all the needless flaming and finger pointing is happening.
Allenator Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 10:51 || Total Comments: 49
i agree with Tir, theres no need to say that peoples opinion of games are wrong and if you don't like a games system thats fair enough but nobody needs to preech to everyone else about why its so good and why another one sucks! let people have there own opinions.
Dark dragonic Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 14:31 || Total Comments: 90
we can respect other peoples opinions, its just that when there's so many needless fanboy comments some of us (myself included) need to prove that fanboyism is not a good thing. i used to shun anything that wasn't nintendo, but after seeing the way the wii was going, and the growing amount of decent 360 games, i opted for that, whilst still playing my nintendo consoles too.
and you can say about graphics and online all you want, but i actually prefer the way a lot of 360 games play over wii games. in my opinion, 3 games play well on wii - metroid corruption, zelda TP and rayman raving rabbids. other games would (and do) play better on the 360
Critter171 Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 19:32 || Total Comments: 79
Drift - that wasnt towrds you. That was towrds weggle. learn to read. You assume i was talking to you.

Wengle- your picky and how am i ingraont and liking the wii? Just beacause you cant find a game to enjoy.

you have to insult people system they enjoy. You're insulting me saying i dont understand. the fact you are a bias fan.

Ok dirft... let me quote what you said.

"online situation, maybe not to the degree of not having one"

youre applinyg both online and not.
Critter171 Says:
November 26th, 2008 at 19:35 || Total Comments: 79
Dark dragonic - Opioion is one thing fanboy is another thing. I have got sick of so many people.


Allenator- All compines have it cons just like all compines have good things.


360- bad is that you have to pay for online serivce or get wifi for $100. or go get a router.

wii- con is paying for the wii interent channel when it was free from the system launch should of been there from the start still.

etc... though are some cons. but i mean i dont mind if someone dosent like a game or the way the game is play on the wii fine.
Evilslayer Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 08:26 || Total Comments: 193
If Nintendo improve on their online features those of us who are stuck offline are going to suffer. There might be an increase of core games, yes, but we'll get quite a lot of games that are like Halo 2; the online mode is neat, even awesome, but the single-player mode sucks.

I believe that is why the Big N hesitates. They think further ahead than Sony and Microsoft. MUCH further ahead (remember when Miyamoto said that in the future he wanted to move away from the TV and instead fill the whole room?).

PS: Before anyone quotes me and tells me I must be dumb if I haven't found out how to connect the Wii to the internet: it's not that simple. For some reason the wireless internet doesn't work on my family's PC. The only way I can connect to the internet on my Wii is to borrow my brother's TV (because it's small enough to be carried) and carry it down to where the PC is and then manually connect the Wii to the internet.

@ Wengle

That is all based on personal opinion. I could argue that I have more than five times as many Wii games than 360 games. There's really not that many games on the 360 that interests me, and the terrible noise the console makes cuts the gameplay experience in half.
Nintendude Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 08:33 || Total Comments: 73
Sol, what does FFVII to do with Microsoft's vice president's comment about Wii?
Allenator Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 11:59 || Total Comments: 49
Critter171 i agreed with u anyway
also wtf are compines did u mean companies
Drift Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 18:36 || Total Comments: 261
""online situation, maybe not to the degree of not having one"

youre applinyg both online and not."

I don't even know what applying both online and not means. But what I'm saying is I agree with Microsoft for criticisng it, although I'm saying Nintendo does have an online System.

Though reading the quote again, The Microsoft guy never even said the Wii wasn't online.

"[the Wii] isn’t an online connected platform"

Thats what he said, we all know the guy knows the Wii does have online capabilities. It can be interpreted though what he means by "online connected platform", he may simply be refering to a console with a proper online infrastructure, like XBox Live, which the Wii definetly does not have.

Anyone flaming that guy for saying Nintendo has no online has completely missed the point.
Sheikah Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 22:46 || Total Comments: 80
Critter, Drift said he agreed but NOT to the same extent as not having one (one being an online side). It appears you cannot follow a coherent sentence. A pity.

But this guy is absolutely right about the situation of Wii's online side - it is a shambles. But then again, Nintendo couldn't give a damn because they're managing to flog something by the bucket to lots of people who in all honesty aren't even going to connect the thing online. Such is the case for a console with a new audience.
Jackster Says:
November 29th, 2008 at 08:35 || Total Comments: 26
He doesn't say it's not online, he says it's not an online connected platform. Bending the words a bit there N-Europe.

He's quite right, the Xbox is a complete online platform and the Wii is just 'bleh' online.

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